Info post(?) on a killer I don't hear about
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tccblr_refugeesThis post is about a killer I'm personally intrigued by Marlene Olive, one of killers in the Barbecue Murders also called the BBQ Murders.
Marlene Olive was born on January 15, 1959, to a teenage mom in Virginia and was adopted by Jim and Naomi Olive just a day after her birth. For the first 6 months Marlene was alive, Naomi was paranoid that Naomi would get sick and made everyone who wanted to come near Marlene wear a gauze mask and would sterilize every possible object Marlene could touch. Naomi's mental health only got worse which made her relationship with her daughter worse–Jim tried his best to avoid addressing the issue and just told Marlene to be nice towards her mother and she would often stand in for her mother at social events. Marlene found out she was adopted at 10 years old and Marlene's relationship with Jim didn't really change after the reveal since the two of them always had a good relationship, but this new information only made Marlene resent Naomi more who loved to call Marlene's biological mother a whore. The arguments Marlene would have with her mother would cause her to bang her head against walls and bite down on her arm and by the time she was in 6th grade she was publicly talking about how she hates her mom at school and Naomi wasn't her "real" mother because she wasn't her biological mother. Marlene asked her father if he would help her find her biological mother and he agreed he would when she was 21. The family lived in Guayaquil, Ecuador until 1965 when Jim's job put him in New Mexico and Colorado then he was fired the family returned to Ecuador until Marlene was 14 years old when they moved to San Rafael, California after Jim Olive lost his job again. Her mother was mentally ill and an alcoholic and would take out her frustrations on Marlene, who was already struggling to adjust to this new place, with physical and emotional abuse.
Due to the stress of adapting in a new environment Marlene developed a duodenal ulcer to which she was prescribed sleeping pills and tranquilizers, she began abusing the pills. She briefly turned to Buddhism, but when that didn't help, she turned to witchcraft. Marlene started shoplifting and doing drugs with friends. Marlene became upset that her father was spending less time with her due to his focus on his new business and him constantly defending her mother strained her relationship with her father. Social workers saw the family situation and recommended family therapy, but Naomi's own mother spent most of her life in a mental hospital deterring Naomi from getting help for herself and for her family. Marlene was in foster care for a little bit from her own volition but was sent back to her parents' home. Marlene started telling her new friends in California how much she wants to kill her mom. Marlene did poetry, was interested in Glam Rock, and was interested in prostitution (likely due to her mom calling her a whore). By the end of the 9th grade, she had up to a dozen prescriptions at any time and would take a bunch of random pills at one–Her grades slipped failing Algebra and English. Her father didn't approve of her new friends who he saw as beneath her and that she was just falling into the wrong crowd like many other teenagers when it was just girls of similar home lives, the group of girls Marlene hung around were called the hippies they smoked but weren't violent. Marlene first tried weed when it was offered by some girls in her Glee club. She was sitting on the high school lawn having a bad trip on LSD while some people teased her when Chuck Riley, 19-year-old drug dealer drop out, stood up for her. Marlene, 15 at the time, started going out with him after he changed himself for her.
At 16 Marlene attempted to kill her mother by putting her pills in her mother's food who refused to eat it because it was bitter. Her parents approved of Chuck when they started darting, the relationship was toxic with Marlene being the manipulator in all accounts telling her friends she was a high priestess who controlled Chuck with sex(even carrying the tarot card around with her), would pinch him hit him and bite him, and she carved her initials in Chuck's back with a knife and would encourage Chuck to take naked pictures of her that she could sell to magazines. When she would randomly break up with him, he'd attempt suicide. Marlene and Chuck started a shoplifting spree in early 1975 having stolen about $6,000 worth of goods–both were bailed out by their parents. She was threatened to be sent to boarding school and Chuck to stay away from Marlene. She ran away at 16 years old and stayed with friends for days until the police brought her back to her household. Marlene started seeing Chuck in secret and Marlene shot Chuck more than once when she masturbated with a loaded gun. Even though Marlene was in charge of Chuck she was dependent on him for emotional support and she was unhappy at home, so she wanted to see him. She'd talk to him on the phone whenever her parents were asleep and they actually put a block on the home phone so she couldn't make any outgoing calls so Chuck would have to call her from a payphone.
On June 21st, 1975, after an argument with her mother Marlene told Chuck to get his gun and kill her mother while she went out for the day with her father (she did not want Jim to die) "We've got to kill the bitch today.". Naomi Olive was suffocated to death and Jim Olive was shot 4 times in the chest. Marlene didn't want her dad to die but didn't exactly mourn him as she helped Chuck move the bodies to China Camp state park where they tried to roast them in a barbeque pit, they left the bodies on fire and came back with more evidence to burn. The two of them told a few friends about the murders, 17-year-old mutual friend and drop out: Deanna Krieger smoked weed with the pair 2 days after the murder, they confessed to her, she helped them clean up and then had a threesome. The couple used her dead parents' money for food, clothes and a YES concert where high on drugs Marlene said: "I killed my parents!". Her father's business partner reported him missing after not seeing him in a few days. The cops showed up to the Olive residence and Marlene lied saying her parents went to Lake Tahoe and didn't come back THEN said that her dad killed her mom then left AFTERWARDS she said it was her mom who killed her dad and she also said the Hell's Angels killed her parents. Deanna Krieger spilled the beans. The bodies were found on the 30th and Marlene along with Chuck were arrested for murder. At his home was an unopened letter from Marlene that read, "I have no guilty feelings at all about my folks. NONE. NEITHER SHOULD YOU. Relax."
Marlene said Chuck did the murders himself while Chuck said she made him do it. Marlene was 16 so she was tried as a juvenile, she was represented by Terence Hallinan. He got no fee for his services when she was ruled guilty and sentenced to 4-6 years at California Youth Authority at Ventura.
Marlene escaped prison a few weeks before her parole and ran to New York, became a prostitute, got arrested and was locked up until she was 21 in 1980. She got arrested repeatedly for forgery.
Marlene Olive was born on January 15, 1959, to a teenage mom in Virginia and was adopted by Jim and Naomi Olive just a day after her birth. For the first 6 months Marlene was alive, Naomi was paranoid that Naomi would get sick and made everyone who wanted to come near Marlene wear a gauze mask and would sterilize every possible object Marlene could touch. Naomi's mental health only got worse which made her relationship with her daughter worse–Jim tried his best to avoid addressing the issue and just told Marlene to be nice towards her mother and she would often stand in for her mother at social events. Marlene found out she was adopted at 10 years old and Marlene's relationship with Jim didn't really change after the reveal since the two of them always had a good relationship, but this new information only made Marlene resent Naomi more who loved to call Marlene's biological mother a whore. The arguments Marlene would have with her mother would cause her to bang her head against walls and bite down on her arm and by the time she was in 6th grade she was publicly talking about how she hates her mom at school and Naomi wasn't her "real" mother because she wasn't her biological mother. Marlene asked her father if he would help her find her biological mother and he agreed he would when she was 21. The family lived in Guayaquil, Ecuador until 1965 when Jim's job put him in New Mexico and Colorado then he was fired the family returned to Ecuador until Marlene was 14 years old when they moved to San Rafael, California after Jim Olive lost his job again. Her mother was mentally ill and an alcoholic and would take out her frustrations on Marlene, who was already struggling to adjust to this new place, with physical and emotional abuse.
Due to the stress of adapting in a new environment Marlene developed a duodenal ulcer to which she was prescribed sleeping pills and tranquilizers, she began abusing the pills. She briefly turned to Buddhism, but when that didn't help, she turned to witchcraft. Marlene started shoplifting and doing drugs with friends. Marlene became upset that her father was spending less time with her due to his focus on his new business and him constantly defending her mother strained her relationship with her father. Social workers saw the family situation and recommended family therapy, but Naomi's own mother spent most of her life in a mental hospital deterring Naomi from getting help for herself and for her family. Marlene was in foster care for a little bit from her own volition but was sent back to her parents' home. Marlene started telling her new friends in California how much she wants to kill her mom. Marlene did poetry, was interested in Glam Rock, and was interested in prostitution (likely due to her mom calling her a whore). By the end of the 9th grade, she had up to a dozen prescriptions at any time and would take a bunch of random pills at one–Her grades slipped failing Algebra and English. Her father didn't approve of her new friends who he saw as beneath her and that she was just falling into the wrong crowd like many other teenagers when it was just girls of similar home lives, the group of girls Marlene hung around were called the hippies they smoked but weren't violent. Marlene first tried weed when it was offered by some girls in her Glee club. She was sitting on the high school lawn having a bad trip on LSD while some people teased her when Chuck Riley, 19-year-old drug dealer drop out, stood up for her. Marlene, 15 at the time, started going out with him after he changed himself for her.
At 16 Marlene attempted to kill her mother by putting her pills in her mother's food who refused to eat it because it was bitter. Her parents approved of Chuck when they started darting, the relationship was toxic with Marlene being the manipulator in all accounts telling her friends she was a high priestess who controlled Chuck with sex(even carrying the tarot card around with her), would pinch him hit him and bite him, and she carved her initials in Chuck's back with a knife and would encourage Chuck to take naked pictures of her that she could sell to magazines. When she would randomly break up with him, he'd attempt suicide. Marlene and Chuck started a shoplifting spree in early 1975 having stolen about $6,000 worth of goods–both were bailed out by their parents. She was threatened to be sent to boarding school and Chuck to stay away from Marlene. She ran away at 16 years old and stayed with friends for days until the police brought her back to her household. Marlene started seeing Chuck in secret and Marlene shot Chuck more than once when she masturbated with a loaded gun. Even though Marlene was in charge of Chuck she was dependent on him for emotional support and she was unhappy at home, so she wanted to see him. She'd talk to him on the phone whenever her parents were asleep and they actually put a block on the home phone so she couldn't make any outgoing calls so Chuck would have to call her from a payphone.
On June 21st, 1975, after an argument with her mother Marlene told Chuck to get his gun and kill her mother while she went out for the day with her father (she did not want Jim to die) "We've got to kill the bitch today.". Naomi Olive was suffocated to death and Jim Olive was shot 4 times in the chest. Marlene didn't want her dad to die but didn't exactly mourn him as she helped Chuck move the bodies to China Camp state park where they tried to roast them in a barbeque pit, they left the bodies on fire and came back with more evidence to burn. The two of them told a few friends about the murders, 17-year-old mutual friend and drop out: Deanna Krieger smoked weed with the pair 2 days after the murder, they confessed to her, she helped them clean up and then had a threesome. The couple used her dead parents' money for food, clothes and a YES concert where high on drugs Marlene said: "I killed my parents!". Her father's business partner reported him missing after not seeing him in a few days. The cops showed up to the Olive residence and Marlene lied saying her parents went to Lake Tahoe and didn't come back THEN said that her dad killed her mom then left AFTERWARDS she said it was her mom who killed her dad and she also said the Hell's Angels killed her parents. Deanna Krieger spilled the beans. The bodies were found on the 30th and Marlene along with Chuck were arrested for murder. At his home was an unopened letter from Marlene that read, "I have no guilty feelings at all about my folks. NONE. NEITHER SHOULD YOU. Relax."
Marlene said Chuck did the murders himself while Chuck said she made him do it. Marlene was 16 so she was tried as a juvenile, she was represented by Terence Hallinan. He got no fee for his services when she was ruled guilty and sentenced to 4-6 years at California Youth Authority at Ventura.
Marlene escaped prison a few weeks before her parole and ran to New York, became a prostitute, got arrested and was locked up until she was 21 in 1980. She got arrested repeatedly for forgery.
